Hello DS,
Things have been very quiet around here over the Christmas period, which is possibly why there have been few replies to your posts. I have ducked in and out, but had no time to reply to this one.
First off i want everyone to know i respect international goverment law. I also have traveled the world and don't listen to what people say about other countries. I just go.....and always its not what people say. I'm an American who was over there during all of this people do not like my goverment but once they talk to me they realize how important our countries are to the world.
Respect for international law is what we are about too - Australia has no capital punishment and has agreed not to extradite anyone, of any nationality, to any country that does execute their prisoners. It is for that reason that some people on this site are angry that our Federal police effectively placed the lives of the Bali Nine into the hands of Indonesian‘s judiciary, that does employ the death penalty.
Anyway...its really hard for me to accept even as a foreigner that 6 Australians are going to die for more or less crimes they committed in Australia. And even more important is the fact that there are people in prison on Bali with harsher crimes with lesser punishment. Even more astounding is the fact that someone who kills innocent people (Abu Bakar Ba'asyir) is let out of prison after 3 years.
Of concern to us too, especially as our Prime Minister has publicly expressed the view that the Bali bombers, and those who encouraged them, murdered so many people, among them Australians, deserve to be executed - yet will, eventually, be asking the Indonesian President not to hang members of the Bali Nine, because Australia doesn’t approve of capital punishment.
Indonesia's government is know for corruption and its a shame thats how it is over there but thats how it is...I got pulled over (on a moped)for not only being white but also wearing flipflops......only to pay a 30 dollar fine each time.
The bottomline on this is they are being made an example of to the western world. Unfortunalty if the media in Australia was quite talking about all of this these kids would have been in out in no time. Its a known fact in Indonesia you can pay your way out of prison as is the same in most Asian countries.....but now the media is looking this and the Indonesian goverment must make an example of these kids. Why are the most important jobs in Asia goverment jobs. Because of corruption and that is where all the money goes from the rest of the world. Is the local police officer the highest paid person in Australia no but they are the highest paid people in Asia....why?
20 years in a jail is fine but death is a different topic for the crimes they committed. How can a person who kills 88 innocent Australians get out of their prison after two years and children who traffic drugs are sentenced to death.....
I have had no experience of Indonesian police, so can’t add anything to what is said about their dealings with the general public, but am willing to agree that what they do to their own is a matter for them - what they do to the Bali Nine is something else. To give them to long gaol sentences is one thing, to hang them is another. If an Indonesian cleric said to have at least encouraged the Bali Bombers, can be given an early release from goal, for whatever reason, then so can the Bali Nine have their sentences commuted to time in jail.
There is something wrong with the way the world is today......thoughts?
I agree, and sadly the ‘baddies‘ get away with things because the ‘goodies,’ afraid of missing out on trade advantages, of not being seen to be ‘good neighbours,’ will not speak out as they should.
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