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Old 06-21-2008, 11:00 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Well said TT.
It is easy for people to say something off the top of their heads without considering what it can do to people who can’t answer for themselves.

We all make mistakes, in the case of the Bali 9 it was a big mistake, but one they are paying for.

For others to come along and big note themselves, pretending they have all the answers, does nothing to help. That they want the death penalty applied says more about them than it does about the Bali 9.
 
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Old 07-20-2008, 08:04 AM   #22 (permalink)
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they deserve what they got, and i don't believe for one second they didn't know they'd get the death penalty, that's an UNBELIEVABLE thing not to know. if just ONE of them knew, he would have mentioned it at some point to the others. the death penalty is very harsh, but you know what? they have extensive criminal backgrounds, imprisonment obviously doesn't work. kudos to bali for having the guts to stand up to the world and judge these 9 the same way they judge their own citizens.
 
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Old 07-20-2008, 10:56 AM   #23 (permalink)
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You are entitled to your opinion of course, but need to be able to back up your statements if they are to be believed. For example about the 'extensive criminal backgrounds' you say all the Bali 9 have? Where is your evidence of that?

If you knew much about the Bali Nine you would know that they actually defend the right of the Indonesians to make & apply the laws that have put them behind bars - as they would put it, 'Their country, their laws.'

I don't think that anyone here would expect them not to be punished for what was a stupid act, but the death penalty is way over the top for people who were essentially the errand boys in the operation.
 
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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"Details of the criminal histories of the accused were not published during the trial to avoid harming legal defences in Indonesia. Once the Denpasar District court reached guilty verdicts and issued sentences it was revealed in Australian media that several members of the Bali Nine have a history of criminal offences and convictions in Australia occurring before their arrests in Indonesia.

In December, 2004 Scott Rush pleaded guilty at the Inala Magistrates' Court in Queensland to 16 offences including drug possession, fraud, theft and drink-driving. A warrant for his arrest in Australia is currently outstanding relating to AUD$4796.95 stolen from the Commonwealth Bank using a forged cheque.[46] Czugaj, also of Brisbane, has 14 convictions for offences including theft, wilful damage, traffic offences and fare evasion.[47]

Lawrence and Norman were arrested on 26 March 2005 whilst travelling along the Pacific Highway in a stolen Ford Laser vehicle. Police were required to use road spikes to intercept the stolen vehicle. Both were due to appear in the Gosford Magistrates Court to face car theft and traffic related charges. On 26 April 2005, they failed to appear due to their imprisonment in Indonesia a week earlier on 17 April 2005.[48]

Lawrence also admitted, after her arrest in Indonesia on 17 April 2005, to two prior visits to Bali in October and November 2004. She and Chan had made an earlier successful run with heroin from Bali to Australia during their October visit. The second delivery, scheduled for December 2004 was aborted when heroin suppliers failed to deliver.[49] Lawrence provided a statement to police saying she was paid AUD$10,000 for the successful heroin delivery, however later retracted her statement"
 
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:50 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Bobby You Are A Complete Idiot And Uneducated!!
 
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I have followed this case from the beginning. My observations are as follows:

* none of the Bali 9 were forced into commiting their crimes
* they all knew what would happen if they were caught
* No australian would tolerate Indonesian interfereance with the Australian judicial system
* they broke Indonesian law and thus must pay the price

SHOOT THE LOT OF THEM AND STOP ALL THIS FAFFFING AROUND.
 
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